Comments for Ben Rey http://benrey.org Urban Gospel Movements Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:20:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? by Why Plant Churches? – Towards a Missional Ecclesiology | Ben Rey http://benrey.org/2011/10/31/sex-in-the-city-do-we-still-need-urban-church-plants/#comment-350 Why Plant Churches? – Towards a Missional Ecclesiology | Ben Rey Wed, 09 Nov 2011 20:20:16 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=689#comment-350 [...] Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? Consumerism, Competition and Celebrities The Boston Shuffle Why plant Churches? – Towards A Missional Ecclesiology [...] [...] Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? Consumerism, Competition and Celebrities The Boston Shuffle Why plant Churches? – Towards A Missional Ecclesiology [...]

]]> Comment on Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? by The Boston Shuffle | Ben Rey http://benrey.org/2011/10/31/sex-in-the-city-do-we-still-need-urban-church-plants/#comment-345 The Boston Shuffle | Ben Rey Mon, 07 Nov 2011 16:24:48 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=689#comment-345 [...] Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? Consumerism, Competition and Celebrities The Boston Shuffle [...] [...] Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? Consumerism, Competition and Celebrities The Boston Shuffle [...]

]]> Comment on Consumerism, Competition and Celebrities by The Boston Shuffle | Ben Rey http://benrey.org/2011/11/03/consumerism-competition-and-celebrities/#comment-344 The Boston Shuffle | Ben Rey Mon, 07 Nov 2011 13:47:18 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=722#comment-344 [...] Unfortunately, an analogy can be made to many of our recent church plants. As I talked about in our last post, church planting is often overwhelmed by the consumeristic nature of the American church. Here me [...] [...] Unfortunately, an analogy can be made to many of our recent church plants. As I talked about in our last post, church planting is often overwhelmed by the consumeristic nature of the American church. Here me [...]

]]> Comment on Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? by benrey http://benrey.org/2011/10/31/sex-in-the-city-do-we-still-need-urban-church-plants/#comment-337 benrey Thu, 03 Nov 2011 13:08:53 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=689#comment-337 @Grace...I think the answer is yes and no. Ralph Kee always welcomes church platners with arms wide open because an overwhelming of Bostonians wouldn't call themselves Christians. The question really is what <i>kind</i> of churches are we planting? @Luke...Thanks for commenting. Good to hear from you again! My only concern isn't with how hip or cool a church's aesthetic is, but if they are making disciples or consumers. And I wonder if our transient generation is because of consumerism? More thinking to be done. @Hanno...but I wonder if there is a sort of spiritual "gentrification" going on. Obviously there is a real, physical gentrification with more and more people who have lived in Boston for 50+ years being forced to move. I wonder if the idols of the suburban evangelical church could have a similar affect on the "quiet revival"? See my <a href="http://benrey.org/2011/11/03/consumerism-competition-and-celebrities/" rel="nofollow">post</a> today. @Grace…I think the answer is yes and no. Ralph Kee always welcomes church platners with arms wide open because an overwhelming of Bostonians wouldn’t call themselves Christians. The question really is what kind of churches are we planting?

@Luke…Thanks for commenting. Good to hear from you again! My only concern isn’t with how hip or cool a church’s aesthetic is, but if they are making disciples or consumers. And I wonder if our transient generation is because of consumerism? More thinking to be done.

@Hanno…but I wonder if there is a sort of spiritual “gentrification” going on. Obviously there is a real, physical gentrification with more and more people who have lived in Boston for 50+ years being forced to move. I wonder if the idols of the suburban evangelical church could have a similar affect on the “quiet revival”? See my post today.

]]> Comment on Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? by Consumerism, Competition and Celebrities | Ben Rey http://benrey.org/2011/10/31/sex-in-the-city-do-we-still-need-urban-church-plants/#comment-336 Consumerism, Competition and Celebrities | Ben Rey Thu, 03 Nov 2011 12:53:02 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=689#comment-336 [...] and celebrating with my wife, I didn’t get around to posting. Ok. Here is a quick recap on Monday: I summarized various sources, including Tim Keller, who believe that the city has shifted [...] [...] and celebrating with my wife, I didn’t get around to posting. Ok. Here is a quick recap on Monday: I summarized various sources, including Tim Keller, who believe that the city has shifted [...]

]]> Comment on Marking New Friends Part 2: Mike Breen by David http://benrey.org/2011/10/26/mike-breen/#comment-335 David Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:56:22 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=652#comment-335 Good stuff, Ben! Thanks for sharing. You should check out " The Lost Art of Disciple-making" By Leroy Eims. I don't know that I have ever heard anyone talk about it, but I think it is really helpful. Very practical, very applicable without being mechanical or artificial. Your point about the lack of discipleship in America reminds me of one of the quotes that was most challenging for me - (paraphrased) "The how of discipleship must come before the why" Good stuff, Ben! Thanks for sharing. You should check out ” The Lost Art of Disciple-making” By Leroy Eims. I don’t know that I have ever heard anyone talk about it, but I think it is really helpful. Very practical, very applicable without being mechanical or artificial. Your point about the lack of discipleship in America reminds me of one of the quotes that was most challenging for me – (paraphrased) “The how of discipleship must come before the why”

]]> Comment on Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? by Hanno van der Bijl http://benrey.org/2011/10/31/sex-in-the-city-do-we-still-need-urban-church-plants/#comment-332 Hanno van der Bijl Tue, 01 Nov 2011 01:54:55 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=689#comment-332 Perhaps this phenomenon is a 'quiet revival' of suburban white people in the city? No revival is perfect...but this is a start. May we suburban white folks be converted by the city to act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with our God like we never have before. Or at least like Jonah, perhaps we'll be converted as we preach to the city we don't care for. Perhaps this phenomenon is a ‘quiet revival’ of suburban white people in the city? No revival is perfect…but this is a start. May we suburban white folks be converted by the city to act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with our God like we never have before. Or at least like Jonah, perhaps we’ll be converted as we preach to the city we don’t care for.

]]> Comment on Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? by ldamoff http://benrey.org/2011/10/31/sex-in-the-city-do-we-still-need-urban-church-plants/#comment-331 ldamoff Mon, 31 Oct 2011 21:37:02 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=689#comment-331 Is this possibly part of a larger trend of younger evangelicals abandoning the traditional denominational churches of their youth to attend large, hip, church-plants, in the A29/City to City vein? I am a member of such a church, and while I know much of our growth is new believers there is also a large number of us who come from other churches to be a part of something new and exciting. I can hardly fault believers for seeking to be a part of a congregation that they feel more fully adheres to the commands of Scripture, but i also worry about whether there is not some faddish quality to our growth that is not entirely conducive to discipleship. A building full of young transients that invest for a few years and then are gone sometimes feels more akin to a successful college ministry than a healthy church, despite the fact that most of us are no longer in school. I'll be interested to read your upcoming posts. May Christ prosper your work in Boston. love, luke Is this possibly part of a larger trend of younger evangelicals abandoning the traditional denominational churches of their youth to attend large, hip, church-plants, in the A29/City to City vein? I am a member of such a church, and while I know much of our growth is new believers there is also a large number of us who come from other churches to be a part of something new and exciting. I can hardly fault believers for seeking to be a part of a congregation that they feel more fully adheres to the commands of Scripture, but i also worry about whether there is not some faddish quality to our growth that is not entirely conducive to discipleship. A building full of young transients that invest for a few years and then are gone sometimes feels more akin to a successful college ministry than a healthy church, despite the fact that most of us are no longer in school.

I’ll be interested to read your upcoming posts. May Christ prosper your work in Boston.

love,
luke

]]> Comment on Sex in the City: Do We Still Need Urban Church Plants? by Grace L http://benrey.org/2011/10/31/sex-in-the-city-do-we-still-need-urban-church-plants/#comment-329 Grace L Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:23:22 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=689#comment-329 Hmm, very interesting thoughts...never thought of the city being "sexy" and that's why churches in cities are growing. I know very little about church planting in Boston, but the question I've asked myself a few times in the last year (when I hear about yet another person feeling called to start a new church in the city) has been do we really need so many church plants in the city? Anyway, looking forward to your posts later this week. :-) Hmm, very interesting thoughts…never thought of the city being “sexy” and that’s why churches in cities are growing. I know very little about church planting in Boston, but the question I’ve asked myself a few times in the last year (when I hear about yet another person feeling called to start a new church in the city) has been do we really need so many church plants in the city? Anyway, looking forward to your posts later this week. :-)

]]> Comment on Out of the Great Silence by Jack Lumanog http://benrey.org/2011/10/18/out-of-the-great-silence/#comment-328 Jack Lumanog Thu, 27 Oct 2011 15:38:50 +0000 http://benrey.org/?p=588#comment-328 I am getting caught up on my blogroll and saw your post here. I had no idea of this news. Taking a moment to pray for you now. Hit me up if you need to chat/vent. Jack+ I am getting caught up on my blogroll and saw your post here. I had no idea of this news.

Taking a moment to pray for you now. Hit me up if you need to chat/vent.

Jack+

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